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tthom949

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Joined: 12/10/2007

I am thinking of purchasing the HP Mailbox for my parents. It seems that this device is, simply put, a color fax machine. Unless there is some magic done by Presto, I wold guess that receiving a color photo could take several minutes. Can anyone inform me of a typical speed of printout for regular mail and mail with color photos? Thanks!

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December 11, 2007 11:42 AM

This is not a fax machine at all, but I understand your point. The differences are thus:

- You can't "call" the HP Printing Mailbox

- The HP Printing Mailbox delivers email, with attached photos and PDF documents (not fax transmissions) 

- The HP Printing Mailbox calls the Presto service up to 5 times a day (account manager setting via web) to retrieve mail.

- When calling out, the HP Printing Mailbox taps into local data provider phone numbers (or an 800 number if no local data provider numbers are available). Ergo, no toll charges. 

- There is an associated Presto Friends "white list" of approved senders (also managed via Web or phone) to totally eliminate spam or junk mail

-  There is a plethora of Presto Newsstand content available for ad-free (and no additional cost) subscription to Presto owners

- The HP Printing Mailbox is a 600 dpi color printer (as opposed to 200 dpi B&W for fax) 

- The owner or user can elect to format their email in beautifully formatted Presto Mail (to make the experience of receiving a letter more enjoyable) See "Styles" section of Presto website for more on this. 

- The HP Printing Mailbox and Presto Service were purpose-built to make it a wonderful experience for people who are not incredibly adept with technology solutions. One ink cartridge, no paper guides, cables that are easy to access on the TOP rear of machine, toll-free 800 number support. Try THAT with a fax machine! 

Anyway, the comparisons to a fax are valid from one viewpoint but completely non-applicable from another. I suggest you read the posts on PrestoPlace or visit Amazon.com and read the Presto user reviews. They give the best color of how people are using Presto and you'll see why a fax machine is not at all applicable to those situations. I hope this helps.

Presto Insider: Peter Radsliff
CEO, Presto Services Inc.

December 11, 2007 12:37 PM

I understand everything you said and have done plenty of research online, but my main question remains unanswered. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR THE PRINTER TO OUTPUT AN 8.5 X 11 COLOR PHOTO OR A SIMPLE BLACK AND WHITE PAGE? What is the ppm specification. If my parents have to wait an hour for a photo to download, I might as well email it to a friend nearby who can print it our and hand to them in less time. :)

December 11, 2007 2:12 PM

Dear tthom949, all your answers are below: 

The specification for the HP Printing Mailbox is that it prints up to 10 pages per minute. However, you cannot compare it to a standard printing solution because it is not accepting a direct connection from a PC, nor is it using standard print drivers that you would be familiar with. You also don't "send" n email and expect immediate delivery. The HP Printing Mailbox "retrieves" email up to 5 times a day (at time you set on a web account management page). So, you won't be phoning your parents to say "Have you got it yet?" It will automatically print the next period it is programmed to print. 

Also, on a PC, it makes a huge difference whether or not you are printing a 10MB file vs. a 1MB file. On Presto, the system renders the email and attachments to be able to transmit and then print efficiently. I just did a test with my own Presto (yes, we at the company get them on our desks!) and I emailed a 5.1 MB file and then initiated an immediate "phone home" (see "secret codes" elsewhere on PrestoPlace). The PDF email attachment was a photo montage with text, graphics and 6 photos -- full page ink coverage).

After about a 3 minute phone call, the full coverage page printed out, taking about 45 seconds to print. It was quickly followed by the cover email which only tool a few seconds.

One of the core bits of technology we have developed is a way to prevent an hour phone call while providing very nice image quality. I'm considering making a video of the scenario I just wrote about above and posting it on YouTube. Do you think that would be useful to anyone? Please let me know. Don't forget, if you buy Presto from our web site, we give a 60-day money back guarantee, so I encourage you to try Presto and return it if you are not thrilled.

Presto Insider: Peter Radsliff
CEO, Presto Services Inc.

December 11, 2007 2:41 PM

Thanks. This answers my question, I think. I understand the whole process having worked some in the computer industry. But I just wanted to be sure that once things started printing out on the Mailbox that it didn't take all day.

You also noted that your test file was a pdf attachment. I assume that regular jpgs and other formats are supported. I think I read on your site that the pdf capability was recently added.

I do think that anything you can do (like posting a video scenario on YouTube) would be helpful.

My brother is doing the purchase of this item in indianapolis, but I will let him know that by purchasing from you there is a 60 day money back deal. What kind of warranty if he buys it at Best Buy or other retailer?

Tommy

December 11, 2007 2:53 PM

Each retailer has their own policy. Off the top of my head, I think Best Buy's is 2 weeks. I don't know the others. PrestoDirect is the only retailer with the 60-day moneyback guarantee.  

By the way, in terms of attachment types, the Presto currently supports the following types of email attachments: GIF, JPEG, PDF and BMP. Ergo, photos and Adobe Acrobat documents.

Presto Insider: Peter Radsliff
CEO, Presto Services Inc.

December 11, 2007 3:12 PM

Thanks very much for all the info!

December 11, 2007 3:18 PM

My brother just emailed me that he has NOT purchased the HP Mailbox yet at Best Buy. He suggests that I buy it from you to get the 60-day guarantee, but ship it to him near where my parents are. (I am 2000 miles away). Can I do that? Can you direct me to the online order site? And should I wait to sign up for the monthly or yearly service until after they get the "gift" on Christmas?

Sorry to be a pest, but we are almost there, I think!

December 12, 2007 12:02 AM

It's easy. Just go to https://store.presto.com/pc-24-32-hp-printing-mailbox-60-day-risk-free-trial.... Click "add to cart" and follow the instructions.

You will be prompted to choose a Presto Service option as part of the process. You can choose $9.99/month or $99.99 for a year ($20.00 savings) with no strings attached -- meaning if you cancel after the 60-day moneyback period, you will get the prorata balance of the $99 refunded back (Presto is a really nice company, and we have nothing even close to the draconian cell phone contracts we have all unfortunately become used to).

When you choose the shipping address, just put your parent's address. It's REALLY easy to set up, just power and phone plug, then paper and a single snap-in ink cartridge. If our other experiences are any guide, when they receive it, they will think, "we don't really need this". After they use it, they'll say, "this is the best gift we have ever received!" We hear this from people time and time again.

Good luck and have fun. Let the forum members know how your purchase experience was and how your parents like it.

Happy holidays.

Presto Insider: Peter Radsliff
CEO, Presto Services Inc.

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